Elliott Friedman on Thursday joined host Matt Marquez on Thursday “The Jeff Marek Show” on SportsNet. As usual, they touched on a wide range of topics, including the future of the Blackhawks’ stars Patrick Kane And Jonathan Toews. A future that could end soon, one way or another.
“Both Kane and Toews didn’t think the day would come for me to leave Chicago,” Friedman said. “I think those two guys had a really hard time getting around that.”
One of the driving factors here (in terms of their openness to trade) is whether or not the organization wants to bring these people back after this year. In fact, Friedman isn’t really clear on whether or not the organization wants a fresh start. “Maybe the Black Hawks want to move on.”
The biggest variable in any business discussion with Toews (or Kane, but we’ll focus on Toews for now) remains who they make the decision to accept/want to leave. And there are no guarantees whether he will ask/want out. But if the Blackhawks were to transfer from Toews before the end of the season — i.e. the trade deadline — what would that look like? We now have an idea.
Jonathan Toews price tag
Friedman believes that two other attackers, Timo Meyer (San Jose) and Bo Horvat (Vancouver), will define the market before the trading deadline, and Meyer will likely be the first to move/determine the market. But with that in mind, here’s what Friedman thinks about the market (i.e., the ask price) for Blackhawks captain Jonathan Toews:
“I think they’re looking at a second or third round pick, probably. That’s what a couple of teams told me… That’s what they think [the cost would be to acquire Toews]. “
The unknown(s) in this scenario is where Toews will accept a deal (one team? 2-5 team shortlist?) and whether it will require a third team to pick up some top hits to make it work. But the third round feels a little too light for a first man in a standoff.
In my opinion, the appropriate scenario for the Toews deal would be similar to how it works Blackhawks trade for defenseman Kimo Timonen I worked in 2015.
In that trade, Chicago traded a second-round pick in 2015 and a conditional selection in 2016 to Philadelphia for the 39-year-old fullback (who did not play this season at the time of the trade due to blood clot issues). Conditional selection began as the fourth director. If Timonen plays 50 percent of the game and Chicago wins two series, it’s up to a third; If Chicago wins three series and appears in half of the games it becomes second.
Long story short: Timonen finally got his name etched on the Stanley Cup in 2015 and cost the Blackhawks twice in the second round.
If the Blackhawks can find one team that has plenty of room to make a two-team deal, I think the Blackhawks can target (picks) with terms based on how deep that team is in the playoffs to improve their pick situation. Timonen was pure rent; Toews might as well (although re-signing him might be another condition that improves the return).
Friedman throws in some of the usual suspects as potential Toews matches: Edmonton, Colorado, and Winnipeg. But their feelings about the cost of a top-six position and a captain remain to be determined for now, and Friedman noted that the Chicago forward was likely a second-tier consideration due to off-ice factors and their relationship in the Blackhawks organization.
However, they are not the only interested parties.
Earlier this week, the crew on TSN discussed a number of topics related to trade deadlines Insider trading sector. One interesting note: The Carolina Hurricanes reportedly had initial discussions with the Canucks about the Horvat Center. What that tells us is that Carolina, who could potentially do some damage this season, is looking to strengthen the center ice position.
Earlier this week, Vancouver Canucks Hockey Ops President Jim Rutherford noted The team has an offer on the table for Horvat, but it is not at the level they would like to accept. If we read between the lines, it would suggest that the Canes are the team that brings the show to the table.
If the price is too high for Horvat (which is said as it is), would they consider playing Toews? Or, more likely, will they have a long chat about a reunion Max Domi?
Domi was traded to Carolina at the deadline last year and has done well for the Canes. But this season he has shown he can play well and win 55 per cent of his matches, making him a familiar player in the Hall and, now, a top-six midfielder for them.
For what it’s worth, Carolina has its own first- and second-round picks and the Flyers’ third-round pick in the 2023 NHL Draft. They also have two second-round picks (their own and a Philly pick) in 2024.